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Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.02.22 07:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: HeIIfire11
I'd say at least 50% of their income comes from these types of people(griefers).
Griefing is a bannable offense in Eve.
As long as there is a way to avoid harm, it's not griefing. As such, only very, very few activities fall under that rule, like shooting people who just entered the game in their newbie system.
This is CCP's own definition of griefing:
"A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players.
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At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. "
There is no mention of it not being griefing if there's a way to avoid it, what makes something griefing is motivation ("tears" and "lulz" as opposed to conflict of interest).
The truth of the matter is that CCP has never had much resources for the GM department and back in the day a petition could take weeks for an answer. As such they've ignored their anti-griefing policy (which exists, at least in theory), and people openly brag about that kind of malicious gameplay.
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Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.02.22 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Please note that INTERACTING with other players in the way the game is intended (shooting and wardec'ing them IS intended) is NOT regarded as 'interfering'.
The quote above refers to players who pick some random other player for no good reason and then keeps harassing them.
SHOOTING is not necessarily equal to HARASSING!
Of course neither shooting or wardecing are inherently griefing but both can be used as part of a griefer's tactics. It's all pretty irrelevant anyway because CCP never does anything about it even in very clear cases of some nutjob chasing someone else through five different corporations half way across the galaxy.
When it comes to harassment in EvE you're pretty much on your own.
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Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.02.22 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Chinwe Rhei on 22/02/2011 08:33:39
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Bolded the important point for you.
Shooting someone is not griefing. Wardeccing someone isn't, either. Using a bunch of alts to spam someone with convos when he jumps into me however, is. Killing someone in a suicide kill isn't griefing, but dropping a gazillion cans to cause long gridloads for anyone entering grid is.
Griefing is not synonymous with exploiting game mechanics. There is a separate policy for that.
All those tactics and more can be used by dedicated griefers to harass and annoy others.
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